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  1. Ze'ev
    Ze'ev July 2, 2013 at 19:57 | | Reply

    Thank you for this very helpful article!

    I went ahead and tried to switch from qTranslate to WPML, and it was a frustrating and fruitless experience.

    The developers promised me this would work smoothly, but I spent nearly a month with their support team (who are quite slow to respond), and it still didn’t convert my qTranslate database.

    In the end, they manually converted the database for me (by which time it was no longer up to date, so I had to manually transfer over several days worth of entries.)

    And, worst of all, when we finally got my site up and running with WPML, it was about TWICE AS SLOW as qTranslate!

    You can see the results of my testing here: https://wpml.org/forums/topic/slower-than-qtranslate/

    And the thread for trying to get the importer to work and the issues I had here:
    https://wpml.org/forums/topic/help-stuck-on-qtranslate-import/

    Best of luck. At this point I recommend qTranslate.

    1. Amir Helzer
      Amir Helzer July 3, 2013 at 05:58 | | Reply

      Zeev, you are right about the process taking longer than we had hoped.

      During this process, we ran into some DB dependencies that are related to the Hebrew encoding of content in qTranslate. Of course, this should not matter to you, as the importer tool should handle it, but you probably know that Mihai spent a great deal of time debugging this issue. When we write import tools, they need to know the ins and outs of the plugins we are importing too. This includes handling bugs and ugly patches in these plugins. Now we can say that we cover the Hebrew encoding in qTranslate. I’m sorry that we had to handle this while working on your site.

      Speed is an interesting issue. It’s a lot easier to build sites that work fastest when creating them originally with a certain set of plugins. After the site is already fully-developed, the import process may take some trade-offs to accomplish complete functionality. I’m sure that if you created the site originally with WPML, you would have used things more efficiently.

      Think about writing a program in an ancient language such as Fortran and then automatically converting it to C++. Of course, it would run less efficiently than if you code it from the beginning on C++. It’s a similar case when we import an entire site.

      Of course, the speed of the imported site is not the end of the story. Once imported and everything works correctly, there are numerous speed optimizations that can be done. WPML includes a number of settings that allow you to speed things up. Some of these settings will disable debug information (which is no longer needed once the site is complete) and some of the settings may require a tiny bit of coding to the theme.

      In any case, we are sure that you can achieve very small performance impact with WPML. We know this for fact, as we are running WPML ourselves on a number of very high traffic sites. To go from minimal optimization to full optimization, some effort is required.

      I summarized the main things here:
      https://wpml.org/2012/01/can-your-site-run-faster/

      Our support staff is familiar with this and can help when needed.

      I hope that this helps.

      1. Ze'ev
        Ze'ev July 3, 2013 at 19:40 | | Reply

        How is it you have time to write this long response, but not to respond to my email regarding a refund?

        You personally promised you would give me a refund if it didn’t work out, but now your staffer Laura told me 30 days have passed – because it took so long to just get my database converted – and so it’s too late.

        I told your support about the slow performance on 6/12 (3 weeks ago), and they have not responded since 6/17.

        1. Amir Helzer
          Amir Helzer July 4, 2013 at 03:33 | | Reply

          That’s because I don’t handle all client emails personally. Laura, who was handling this made a technical mistake with your refund processing, which is corrected now. Thank you for reminding us about it.

  2. losocarrat
    losocarrat September 10, 2013 at 19:00 | | Reply

    Sorry, but although I have looked at all possible solutions, WPML makes my website be very very very very slow.
    The best plugin is the one that works right the first. With no so much subsequent repair

    1. Amir Helzer
      Amir Helzer September 10, 2013 at 20:01 | | Reply

      WPML includes debug modes, which help during the site development, but are not really intended for production. We’ve recently added notes about it in the GUI, helping to identify the features that take resources and provide development information.

      Anyway, we are very interested in learning more about the performance issues with your site and WPML. I’m sure that we can help it run (a lot) faster.

      Have you reported any of this in our technical forum?

  3. mcgreggor
    mcgreggor December 10, 2013 at 07:23 | | Reply

    This doesn’t feel like an unbiased comparison and, more like a sales pitch for WPML. The fact that the article links 17 times to WPML and not a single time to qTranslate says enough.

    After reading I thought this would be an affiliate article.

  4. PC-SERVEIS, Diseño y Presupuesto de Páginas Web
    PC-SERVEIS, Diseño y Presupuesto de Páginas Web December 20, 2013 at 00:12 | | Reply

    Thank you very much Jean 😉

    Now, qTranslate is broken with WordPress 3.8 :((

  5. gireesh
    gireesh April 30, 2015 at 05:58 | | Reply

    qTranslate is better pluguin as compare to WPML becasue if you have hundred post display in same page then how you can manage ? i think qTranslate is better for user prospective and easy to use.

  6. Pedro Carvalho
    Pedro Carvalho May 3, 2015 at 04:10 | | Reply

    hi, just wanted to say there’s a fork of old qtranslate called qtranslate-x and is very active.

  7. Voldemar
    Voldemar January 10, 2016 at 04:11 | | Reply

    What’s a crazy data – “qTranslate is now considered an abandoned plugin and you should definitely be using” now – qtranslate-x is the fest and free!

  8. yessir
    yessir May 6, 2016 at 05:11 | | Reply

    Have you been paid by WMPL, bring this review? Your arguments towards WMPL is just invalid – high scaling websites are perfectly for qtranslate X aswell.

    Constanly arguing that WMPL have support. qtranslate X got that aswell. Their supportteam is even faster than WMPL.

    If you decide to bring a review, could you please do it objectively?

  9. MrFoxTalbot
    MrFoxTalbot October 4, 2016 at 16:13 | | Reply

    I have been using WPML since late 2012 and I am now seriously considering going back to qtranslate. WPML is time consuming to setup and maintain, resource hungry, database table spammy and, most important, inconvenient for editors to use.

    I am looking for a single reason to stick to WPML, in fact that´s how I found this post, but I just can´t find any. Regarding comments, depending on the project I either use external services such a Disqus, or disable them altogether, so it´s a non-issue.

  10. Hassan
    Hassan December 13, 2016 at 02:58 | | Reply

    I am working as a web developer. I love this free Q-translate plugin. Which is work for almost everything like post, page, texonomy, custom-post etc. And as @Jean Galea mentioned that, if your side has budget and you want to improve user experience in all aspect, Then WPML is the best choice.

  11. promodj.com
    promodj.com March 28, 2017 at 14:07 | | Reply

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